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OUT MAGAZINE – Red, White & Royal Blue’s Taylor Zakhar Perez and Nicholas Galitzine discuss bringing heart and heat to the Amazon Prime Video queer rom-com.
Yearning for a queer romantic comedy with transatlantic intrigue? Then Red, White & Royal Blue is the film event of the season.Based on the beloved 2019 young adult novel of the same name by Casey McQuiston, Amazon Studios’ Red, White & Royal Blue tells the story of Alex Claremont-Diaz (played by Minx and The Kissing Booth alum Taylor Zakhar Perez), the first son of the United States, and his whirlwind romance with Henry, Britain’s young crown prince (played by Cinderella and Bottoms star Nicholas Galitzine).
While on its surface, the storyline may sound like a prime-time soap, this delicious, tension-filled, enemies-to-lovers tale is full of heart. And the new Prime Video film is grounded too, especially when it comes to the difficulties Alex and Henry face as two public figures hiding who they are — and who they love — from the world.
“After reading the book, it was like nothing else…I’ve ever read or seen before,” Zakhar Perez says when asked about bringing the nuances of McQuiston’s novel to life for the screen. “I took it as [McQuiston] challenging what was already out there. And I think they did a brilliant job of it. So when we were bringing these characters to life, we were like, If it’s convenient, if it’s cheesy, if it doesn’t serve the characters, if it doesn’t serve the storyline, if it skews public perception, we’re not gonna do it. And we were very diligent about [that rule].”
“Beyond the great love story, I think the thing that interests me as an actor in general is people completely trapped by circumstance and upbringing,” Galitzine says of playing a member of the British monarchy.
“I always like characters who have to kind of escape the bounds of their upbringing in some ways. It was a lot of fun,” he continues. “We had a royal correspondent on set, and getting to pick his brain in terms of how to imbue Henry with this sort of uptight stiffness that Alex is kind of like the antithesis of in some ways.… It was funny being able to shed those layers and, in a way, bring in that much-needed angst.”
The angst and the chemistry between Alex and Henry are real. Though they have an obvious disdain for each other in the film’s first act, an internationally embarrassing wedding cake incident forces the pair to spend more time together in public, pretending they are friends. The act, filled with forced smiles and staged photo ops, begins as a means to garner positive press — Alex’s presidential mother, played by screen icon Uma Thurman, is up for reelection. But the more Alex and Henry interact, the more they realize they actually like each other. And this chemistry was also curated behind the scenes.
“Taylor and I became mates immediately,” Galitzine recalls of working with Zakhar Perez. “We have the same sense of humor, and he’s just so funny. He’s so smart. He’s a very caring person, and we really saw eye to eye. When you’re friends with someone, it just makes the intimacy aspect of it all that much easier because you can trust in this person. I remember speaking to Matthew López, our director, and he really felt like gay sex often had been sort of misrepresented in film, and he wanted to make something that both lived within the ‘poppiness’ of the rom-com genre but also felt authentic and real.”
“We had an incredible intimacy coordinator, Robbie Taylor Hunt, who was very much integral in really giving me the language that I think I needed when it came to the intimacy and creating this really sweet, very hungry at times, bond,” Galitzine adds. “A really sweet and tender love between the two of them. It was a very caring set, and Taylor was also very, very helpful in that as well.”
“We both came into it with such a level of respect for the book and for the script and what we were there to create,” Zakhar Perez notes. “It wasn’t anybody’s show. It wasn’t Matthew saying, ‘This is my film, I’m doing it this way and you have to do it like this,’ and it wasn’t Nick coming in and going, ‘Well, I want to portray Henry this way.’ It wasn’t me coming in and going, ‘This is how Alex has to be.’ It was all of us collaboratively sitting together and talking it all out. This is where I like to come from, asking questions. I think that built our trust, that built our understanding and gave us the shorthand as soon as we got into filming.”
Red, White & Royal Blue’s queer magic can be attributed in large part to the film’s director and writer, López, the Tony-winning playwright behind The Inheritance. Having a gay creative at the helm was, as Galitzine puts it, “integral” to the narrative’s authenticity.
“Matthew is so communicative, and he’s so open as a person that there was really nothing off limits,” Galitzine says. “He was just really passionate and really hell-bent on telling Casey’s story, albeit in a slightly different way from the book. I think you always have to deviate in some capacity when you do a book-to-film adaptation. But we were talking before about people feeling seen, and that was always at the top of his agenda. I can’t really imagine anyone else directing it. His passion was so palpable every single day on set.”
And Zakhar Perez notes that he and López both come from the theater world, so there was already a shorthand between them in work style. “I love a vertically integrated writer-director,” he says. “I can go to them, ask the questions, get back to set, and I don’t have to do all this runaround. It’s like looking up something in the dictionary. He just created this togetherness and a safe space for all of us to play and be vulnerable and just set the tone for the entire summer. And I can’t say that about all directors I work with.”
With an already established fan base from the YA novel, Red, White & Royal Blue debuts at a unique time. There has never been so much LGBTQ+ representation in mainstream media. Yet the community remains under attack, especially when it comes to stigma from traditional society, something Alex and Henry know all too well. And while RWRB is indeed a lighthearted popcorn romance, it also has the power to change minds with its joyous portrayal of queer love.
“By the end of it, we’re gonna crack you open, and you’re going to love these two characters, love their journey together,” Zakhar Perez says. “Their character development throughout their arc is wonderful, individually and together.”“There is a lot of similarity between queer love and straight love,” Galitzine says.
“There’s something completely undeniable about the chemistry of Alex and Henry. The movie even recognizes it when the king of England, played by the amazing Stephen Fry…says, ‘It’s undeniable that the love is genuine.’ I think for people to see queer love portrayed as being the norm, I just really hope it can build bridges, and it can enlighten a lot of people who maybe haven’t grown up around a lot of queer people, who don’t have queer friends or don’t have access to the queer community. That’s the joy of working in the film industry in this day and age: the far reaches that these films can have and the people they can touch.”
TEEN VOGUE – Red, White & Royal Blue stars Taylor Zakhar Perez and Nicholas Galitzine couldn’t be less serious. In conversation, the banter is endless, the charm off the charts. They’re currently embroiled in a discussion about New Zealand vs. Australia. Zakhar Perez refers to New Zealand in conjunction with the “naur” meme and H2O Just Add Water, famously an Australian show, and it sets Galitzine spinning into laughter — before he schools his costar in the dynamic between the two countries.
There’s something of a schoolboy zest, darting wherever their brain cells move them in conversation, that makes you think of the cheeky conversations had over the trash can at school, sharpening pencils over and over again to gossip. They jokingly narrate the opening of our interview, even though we’re on a Zoom: “This is Taylor and I’m done talking,” Zakhar Perez throws down, and Galitzine picks it up, “Hi I’m Nick, I’m about to start speaking.”
Their onscreen story, an adaptation of Casey McQuiston’s novel of the same name, also begins in the least serious way possible. Three things are certain in life: Death, taxes, and the fact that a giant wedding cake is always going to come crashing down. Zakhar Perez, 31, is the devil-may-care Alex Claremont-Diaz, the First Son of the United States, while Nicholas Galitzine, 28, is the uptight, intellectual Prince Henry of Wales. They are, of course, enemies. Until that toppled wedding cake throws them, at speed, into a secret love connection, and we follow them as they navigate their politically-combustible romance as the young adults of the Western powers.
Zakhar Perez and Galitzine are not strangers to the romance scene, however. Fans will know the former from his role as Marco in The Kissing Booth 2 & 3; and the latter from Cinderella, opposite Camila Cabello, and Purple Hearts with Sofia Carson. There’s no shortage of star power either — Uma Thurman stars as Alex’s mother and the POTUS, Stephen Fry is the King, and Sarah Shahi makes a scene-stealing turn as Zahra.
In becoming Prince Henry, Galitzine asked the same questions that he has of any role that lands in his lap: are they complex, and three-dimensional? Is their story compelling? Henry’s gayness is a major factor of the film, and important to his character as he exists in the confines of the royal family, but Galitzine admired the script beyond Henry’s sexuality. “He felt really real. I felt like I empathized with him,” Galitzine tells Teen Vogue. “I didn’t really feel a pressure necessarily, in that capacity. It just felt like a really beautiful story.” While he didn’t read the novel before filming, as he treats the script as his bible, he’s since read McQuiston’s source material.
And Zakhar Perez? He certainly felt the pressure to tell the story right, given the groundswell of support from the novel’s fanbase. For him, it’s about the circumstances of the story, the genre of the film, and where we meet the character in their life. It’s also been about “being accurate with the storytelling,” Zakhar Perez tells Teen Vogue, because “if we are playing these roles — any role, but especially this — [in] a film that has the opportunity to change perceptions, internationally; in a film for everyone,” it has to be done right.
Director Matthew López says he had “two hours to take them on a journey from enemies to friends to lovers to world changers. Two hours to do that, and every second counted,” which accounts for some of the omissions from the novel. He had to be “ruthless” in order to tell that central story. López also says he can’t imagine anyone else playing Alex and Henry. “I think they came away understanding Alex and Henry even better than either Casey or I ever did.”
The film, like the novel, does something that disrupts the purity politics that can plague media — it lets the gay guys have sex, hence its R rating. When I suggest that sometimes we just want to see hot dudes f*ck, the duo roar with laughter. “I’m f*cking stoked that we classify as hot dudes as well, so internet high-five, Taylor,” Galitzine says. Zakhar Perez adds, “I say the movie serves it hot on a platter, if that’s what you want.”
The film is in constant conversation with gay sex and how it’s portrayed on screen. López wanted a range of scenes that “felt hot and animalistic and hungry, and then stuff to feel tender and a reflection of their love for each other,” Galitzine says.
It’s proof of the necessity of an intimacy coordinator on set, Zakhar Perez says: “We needed to see the different colors, the different shades, the different shades of gray through this” — he laughs at his own joke — “and we had to focus on that because you’re telling a sexual journey,” but also a journey that’s simultaneously personal, and also relationship-based.
“I really have to give Robbie [Taylor Hunt], our intimacy coordinator, his flowers,” Galitzine says. “Not having that language as Nick,” to be able to fully craft the scene in a comfortable way, “it’s really daunting and Robbie was so great.” Their collaboration became a process of “charting when to turn up the heat; what felt truthful in one scene, as opposed to maybe not right in the other.”
There’s an added flair in the film that grounds it firmly in reality, where condom wrappers lay strewn on the floor and lube sits on the nightstand post-sex. López says the condom use came from a logical line of questioning; Alex was not on PrEP, and with no secrets in the royal family, Henry likely couldn’t safely procure it. Thurman’s POTUS character even mentions PrEP by its brand name. “It was really important to me and to Uma that the scene took a surprising turn for Alex, that not only is mom totally cool with it, mom may in fact know even more than Alex about sexual health,” López says.
So maybe there is something serious, something impactful underneath the fun rom-com flair. A Trojan horse — or condom. Zakhar Perez offers a treatise on the very heart of the film: “Henry being a prince and having the King of England as his grandfather, and Alex being the First Son of the United States to Uma Thurman’s character, these are the leading authorities on everything throughout the world,” he says. “So when you look at [POTUS], accepting Alex for who he is, and what he’s saying that he’s going to do, and for Henry to fight with his grandfather to say, ‘this is what I want,’ because I love this person, and then accepting it. It’s a trickle down effect to everybody that’s living in those countries. And that’s how you create change.”
We start to speak about being in their profession, where being misunderstood and misrepresented is rife. “We are in the business of misconceptions,” Galitzine says. “As actors, we’re constantly playing these roles, and I think a lot of people associate us with the characters that we play.” Often, you’re portrayed “in this two-dimensional outline of a human being. We all have our own anxieties and struggles.” It has ironically made him more open with people. “I try and lead with vulnerability now, [with] candor… Being misperceived in that way is quite scary.”
For Zakhar Perez, he’s followed his own compass. It takes real guts to back yourself like that. To say, “No, I want to be a real actor, this is what I want to do.” To know, “This is not a one and done thing,” that “this is a dream that I will have forever. It’s my Everest.” It’s the first thing on his mind when he wakes up, and the last when he sleeps.
Climbing Kilimanjaro a few years back was “such a great metaphor for life.” He would wake up to the sight of the peak. Two hours later, a fog would set in; he’d hike for eight hours. He would see the peak again, this time drenched in the setting sun. “I’m going to the top of this f*cking mountain,” Zakhar Perez thought. People might mistake the dedication to his craft as “a little intense,” but “nobody’s going to knock me off the path because I choose this…I’m in it to win it. And I want to do this for the rest of my life.”
As our interview winds down, we take a moment for Zakhar Perez’s late sister, Kristy, and the profoundly moving words he wrote about her on his Instagram. “She was so excited to see it,” he says. She passed away just as the marketing campaign for the film began; the GQ article, the teaser and the trailer and the pictures — everything she missed. “She’s the oldest so she’d care about everything.” His voice is smiling now. She was full of questions: if he got to keep the outfits; how he could possibly memorize so many lines; and what Uma Thurman must be like — “She just wanted all the deets. She just wanted to be supportive, be there, be in on it.” A love like that never leaves. “It’s been a really hard time for my family. Family has always meant a lot to me and now it means even more.”
Taylor Zakhar Perez and Nicholas Galitzine have given life to these characters, and in return, Alex Claremont-Diaz and Prince Henry have given them life lessons. “I would just say f*ck it,” Zakhar Perez says of his approach to life. Alex is “this bombastic, annoying, energetic over-the-top guy that sometimes doesn’t look before he leaps and puts people into different predicaments that they probably shouldn’t be put into, but he just doesn’t care…I wish we could all just be, you know, out there like that.” And Galitzine: “It sounds so cheesy to say but honestly, it’s being true to yourself, to be honest, like living your truth. Life’s too f*cking short,” he says, “Life’s too short to hide yourself. Be courageous for love.”
HOLA! – In an exclusive interview, Zakhar Perez talks about his lead role in ‘Red, White, and Royal Blue’
Taylor Zakhar Perez is magnetic. His presence is vibrant and inviting, leaping off of our Zoom chat as it does in the summer’s most awaited rom-com, “Red, White and Royal Blue,” where he bursts through the screen in one of his most engaging, sweetest, and romantic roles yet.Based on Casey McQuiston’s incredibly successful best-seller, the film is a love story with a political backdrop, taking viewers globe-trotting from Washington to London to Paris to Texas. It follows Alex Claremont-Diaz (Zakhar-Perez), the First Son of the first female President in the United States, who unexpectedly falls in love with his sworn enemy, Prince Henry of Wales (Nicholas Galitzine). The book struck a chord with legions of followers, developing a cult-like following on BookTok, kickstarting queer romance novels in industry, and serving as a before and after of sorts in publishing.
To say that the film adaptation has big shoes to fill is an understatement, one that Zakhar Perez is aware of and that the filmmakers seemed keen on serving, never shying away from the queer and political elements that give the story its gravitas. My experience watching the film felt like a look at contemporary history with rose-colored lenses. It’s a wish-fulfillment story, yet one with its feet firmly rooted on the ground.
In an exclusive interview with HOLA! USA, Zakhar Perez discussed his decision to pursue a career that set him apart from his family, his approach to the role of Alex, and his future, all the while showing off some impressive movie knowledge.
Have you always wanted to be an actor?
No. I started off wanting to be a doctor, or a dermatologist, or an orthodontist. Something different than people in my family. Nobody in my family is an actor so I’m still different, I guess.I applied to UCLA for biology, and I started going there, doing all my biology and science classes. And then I realized that I wasn’t doing it for me, I was doing it so I could meet my family’s expectations. That’s when the idea of becoming an actor started. I thought, ‘I’m in Los Angeles, I’m in the perfect place to learn.’ Even though I came to Los Angeles with the intention of studying biology, it just took a moment for me to just be with myself to understand that acting is what I wanted to do for the rest of my life.
“Red White and Royal Blue” is a contemporary story but it also feels like a classic romantic comedy. Were there any inspirations in the way you approached the role?
That’s an interesting question, especially when talking about the classic side of romantic comedies, because Matthew (López, the director) and I talked about wanting the story to feel evergreen with the setting being in England and Texas and the White House. It feels like a movie that could transcend the decades.For inspiration, we landed on classic romantic comedies and films from the Hugh Grant era. Even though you watch those older movies today and you’re like ‘Oh my Gosh, this is, you know, black and white,’ they still hit and are hilarious. And they’re quippy and intelligent and the physical comedy is incredible. So I definitely looked at movies like “Bringing up Baby” and “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.” And also “The West Wing.” I feel like Alex wants to be on the West Wing. He’s very Sam Seaborn and I watched tons and tons of Aaron Sorkin for pace and specificity.
The film is based on an incredibly successful novel. Did that baggage impact your expectations of the movie or the way in which you approached the role?
Yeah. From the beginning, I felt like I had a lot of weight on my shoulders. Cause when I got the job, I had the chemistry read with Nick (Galitzine) and I was excited because I had read the book the previous week and was so moved because it’s such an incredible story. And then I start telling people about this project and their reaction is what got me a little bit worried (laughs).And then I started reading a lot about it online and the fandom around it. So the answer definitely is yes. But I wouldn’t say I approached the role any differently than any of my previous projects. This movie just happened to be a known IP and I had the advantage to have the book and to be able to fill in the shades of Alex that I may not have had if I had just a script.
One of my favorite things about the film is that it’s fun and breezy, but also super political and not afraid to tackle topics like queer and Latino identity. Was there a conversation about trying to keep these elements in balance?
I feel like the film having these elements in balance was kind of inherent, because of the comedy side of the romantic comedy. I mean there are some really touching moments throughout the film and a handful of them were cut for time. Clifton Collins Jr., who plays my father in the film, was amazing. I knew of him. I’d seen his projects, but we’d never crossed paths before. And then we met and we just got along, thick as thieves. And he’s like an OG Mexican from Los Angeles which was so colorful. He made it feel like there was family on set. Same with Matthew being Puerto Rican. Their influences help you get into that vibe, and then you do the scene and it’s wonderful. You really bring that accuracy to it.There’s a line in the film when Alex and Henry are in Paris, and Henry asks him a question about his mom’s campaign, and Alex starts telling him about his father and his abuela coming to the States. The line is something like “If you’re an immigrant in America and you have a ‘Z’ in your last name, there’s a lot of people in positions of power that don’t look and sound like you. I’ve been given the opportunity to be someone in the world that my father didn’t see when he was growing up.”
As someone with two ‘Zs’ in his last name (laughs), that was a tough scene for me because I had to be there as Alex and not as Taylor. It was very emotional to think of my family and what they went through to come to the United States. Even though they came here a long time ago, you still think about all of the people that are coming to America today and about all of their stories.
Alex realizes that his father didn’t have any role models growing up and now he’s a congressman. That fuels his fire to be the change. That was so exciting for me.
Lastly, I wanted to ask about the types of roles that you wanna do right now and in the future.
I mean, I love comedy. This was one of those projects that when I read the book I was cracking up. You’re cracking up and then sobbing and then cracking up (laughs). It had this great duality to it. I was so grateful to bring myself to this role and lean on the comedy side of things.I would also love to do an A24 or Neon film, something the Safdie Brothers would make. I love Rob Pattinson in “Good Time.” I would also love to do an action film. I think that that would be intense and incredible. And I was a nationally ranked athlete for years, so that’s one of those things where I’m like, ‘I could do this.’
This interview has been condensed and edited for clarity and was conducted before the SAG-AFTRA strike.